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Re: Passive Voice

On Sun, 26 Mar 2006, at 20:03, Martin Zarate wrote:
> The subject it is not important in
> Se habla inglés.
> But
> The verb is reflexive.

I have to disagree here: "hablar" is *not* a reflexive verb. In this sentence,
"se" does not work as a reflexive verb but as an "impersonal pronoun", that is,
a pronoun that replaces "he", "she" or "it" and is unimportant to specify.

An example of a reflexive verb could be:
"Pedro se baña cada mañana."
In this sentence, the subject is "Pedro" and the verb is "bañarse". This "se" is
semantically different from the "se" in "Se habla inglés."

I write a little more about this in messages to come.

Regards

Ignacio




Dom, 2 de Abr, 2006 6:17 am

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